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Hillary Clinton Talks Monica Lewinsky

 darry 2014-06-10

Hillary Clinton Talks Monica Lewinsky

PHOTO: Hillary Clinton delivers the Keynote Address at the 35th Annual Simmons Leadership Conference at Simmons College, April 23, 2014, in Boston. | Monica Lewinsky attends the Kitchen Spring Gala Benefit 2014, May 22, 2014, in New York.

In an exclusive interview ahead of Tuesday’s release of her memoir “Hard Choices,” Hillary Clinton talked to ABC’s Diane Sawyer about Monica Lewinsky.

Below is a partial transcript as airing:

Diane Sawyer: “Monica Lewinsky is back in the news.”

Hillary Rodham Clinton: “Well, she's perfectly free to do that. She is in my view, an American who gets to express herself however she chooses, but that's not something that I spend a lot of time thinking about.”

DS: “Really?”

HRC: “Really. Really. Yeah, I mean, I wrote about it in my book ‘Living History,’ I dealt with it at the time, I have moved on, and that's how I see, you know, my life and my future.”

DS: “You're not looking at me thinking, "’ she is, asking these questions again.’”

HRC: “No, because I knew you would, I knew you'd have to. I mean, it's somebody in the news. You have every right to ask and I have every right to tell you how I feel.”

DS: “Did you call her a narcissistic loony-toon?”

HRC: “I am not going to comment on what I did or did not say-back in the late '90s.”

DS: “She has said she has lived all of these years as a punch line. Is there anything you would say to her about her life.”

HRC: “Well, I would wish her well. I hope that she is able to, you know, think about her future and construct a life that she finds meaning and satisfaction in.”

DS: “How are you different than you were then?”

HRC: “Well, I think the eight years of the presidency taught me a lot…And then my eight years in the Senate…I have tried to become a deeper, more understanding, more open, more grateful person as I've gone through these last 20 years because I don't think you need more political combat in our country.”

DS: “Would you say that's right-wing conspiracy again?”

HRC: “I probably would not because I think that it became you know, an excuse for not looking at what was clearly a concerted political effort against the Clinton administration, just as we had seen against the Obama administration.”

DS: “Somebody said, ‘Forgiveness is releasing a prisoner and discovering the prisoner was yourself.’”

HRC: “I am 100% in the camp that says forgiveness is mostly about the forgiver. I know too many people, having now lived as long as I have, who can never get over it…Forgiveness is a way of opening up the doors again and moving forward, whether it's a personal life or a national life.”

DS: “Is this the happiest time in your marriage?”

HRC: “We’ve had a lot of happy times. We started off, you know, a conversation all those years ago at Yale Law School and—

DS: “Forty”

HRC: “Yeah more, oh my gosh, so many years ago. It’s never stopped, and we make each other laugh. We support each other, it’s really another one of my blessings.”

DS: “Republican Rand Paul, said, “It’s fair game. It’s fair game to talk about Monica Lewinsky. But, it’s fair game to talk about how bosses treat people.”

HRC: “You know, he can talk about what he wants to talk about. And if he decides to run, he’ll be fair game too for everybody.”

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