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萨古鲁谈什么是小我?需要消除小我吗?

 我心依旧500 2017-12-28


Sadhguru answers the question, “What is ego”, and looks at this oft misunderstood aspect. He explains how the ego is neither good nor bad unless one gets identified with it.

萨古鲁回答了“什么是小我”这个问题,探讨了小我经常被误解的面向。他解释说,如果你没有认同于小我,那么小我就既不是好的亦不是坏的。


Question: Namaskaram. What is ego? And how do we go about destroying it?

问:什么是小我?我们如何消除小我呢?


Sadhguru: “Ego” is not something that you got because you did something well or because you became rich or beautiful or anything else. When you started kicking in your mother’s womb, the ego was born. The very first mistake of getting identified with your physical body means the ego was born. It is a defense mechanism. You got identified with this little body. This little organism has to survive in this vast existence of which you have no perception to even know where it begins and where it ends. Just to survive, you have to project yourself like a big man. So the ego is born. It is a false reality you created just for the sake of survival.

萨古鲁:“小我”并不是那种由于你做好了某件事,或者由于你变富有了,变美了,或者什么别的东西,就获得的东西。你开始在母亲的子宫中蹬腿的的时候,小我就产生了。你认同于物质身,就是你犯的第一个错误,这就意味着小我产生了。这是一种防御机制。你认同于这个小小的身体。这个小小的有机体为了在这广大的存在中生存,而它甚至都没有觉知力,来知道这存在是从何处开始,在何处结束。只是为了生存,你就把自己投射成一个大人物。所以,小我产生了。它是你为了生存的缘故而创造的一个虚假的事实。


So what is ego? It is like your shadow. The moment you have a physical body, you have a shadow. The shadow itself is neither good nor bad. If the sun is up there, you have a little shadow. If the sun is down there, you have a mile-long shadow. Whichever way the outside situation demands, that is the kind of shadow you have. That is also the kind of ego you should have.

那么,什么是小我?它就像你的影子。你有一个物质身,你就有一个影子。影子本身既不好也不坏。如果太阳在那上面,你就有一个小影子。如果太阳在下面这个位置,你就有一个一英里长的影子。外部环境如何要求,你就有相应的影子。那也是你应该有的小我的样子。


Vairagya

超越颜色的空无


You may have heard the word “vairagya“. “Raga,” means color. “Vai” means beyond. “Vairag,” means beyond color, you have become transparent. If you have become transparent, if what is behind you is red, you turn red too. If what is behind you is blue, you turn blue too. If what is behind you is yellow, you turn yellow too. You are unprejudiced. Wherever you are, you become a part of that, but nothing sticks to you. Only if you are like this, only if you are in a state of Vairag, then you will dare to explore all dimensions of life when you live here.

你也许听过“vairagya”这个词。“raga”的意思是颜色。“vai”的意思是超越。“vairag”就是超越颜色,你变得透明了。如果你变得透明了,那么在你背后的是红色,你也就变成红色。在你背后的是蓝色,你也就变成蓝色。在你背后的是黄色,你也就变成黄色。你是无偏见的。你在哪里,就成为那里的一部分,但是没有任何东西附着于你。你只有成为这样,你只有处在vairag状态,你才会敢于在这里探索生命所有的维度。


To handle different kinds of situations in our lives, we need different kinds of identities. If you are fluid about it, if you can change from one to another gracefully, then you can play your role to the hilt and still have no problem with it. But right now the problem is you get so identified with it, you start believing you are that. Once you believe “I am the shadow”, what would you do? You would naturally crawl upon the earth. If you crawl upon the earth, how will life be? If we carpet the floor, you will crawl in comfort, not in joy. Suppose stones and rocks and thorns came? Then you will cry. That is how your life is going on right now. If the outside situation is carpeted, you will crawl in comfort. If little thorns come, you will cry because you are crawling upon the earth.

处理生活中遇到的不同情况,我们需要不同的身份来应对。如果你是流动的,能优雅自如地从一个身份转换到另一个身份,然后你可以把这个角色扮演到最好,并且仍然没有任何问题。但是现在问题是,你认同于你的身份,你开始相信你就是你扮演的角色。一旦你相信“我是影子”,你会做什么?你会很自然地在地上爬行。如果你在地上爬行,生命会怎么样?如果我们在地板上铺上地毯,你会爬得舒服,却不是爬得喜悦。假设地上有石子,岩石,有刺,会怎么样?你会哭。你现在的生命就是这样的。如果外部环境是铺上地毯的,你会爬得很舒服。如果有一点刺冒出来,你会哭,因为你是在地上爬。


Peeling away the physical

剥掉物质


Right now your whole experience of life is limited to the physical. Everything that you know through your five sense perceptions is physical. The physical has no purpose of its own, it is there only as a peel to the fruit. The peel means something only as a protective layer to the fruit. This body is important because there is something else inside. You have never experienced that something else. If that something else goes away tomorrow morning, nobody would want to touch this body which would have become a corpse. So, today when it is there, we have to take care of it.

你现在对生命全部的体验都局限于物质。你通过五种感官来知道的都是物质的。物质的东西没有自己的目的,它存在在那里,只是如同水果的皮。果皮只是果肉的保护层。这个身体很重要,因为在身体里面有些别的东西存在着。你还从未体验过别的东西。如果那个别的东西明早走掉了,就没人想再触碰这个身体,它已经变成尸体。所以,今天当它在这里的时候,我们就要照顾好它。


If we do not transcend the limitations of the physical, if we do not transcend the limited existence of the physical, then life will only be a struggle. If situations go well, you are very confident. If situations do not go well, you are diffident. And you always know, whatever situations are going well, any moment, things can go wrong. It is not even a question of going wrong. Life can just take any course any moment. Things can happen in a way that you do not like, any moment.

如果我们没有超越物质的局限,如果我们没有超越物质局限的存在,那么生命就会是一场挣扎和痛苦。如果外部环境好,你就非常有信心,如果外部环境不好,你就心虚胆怯。你也一直都知道,再好的外在环境,在某个时刻,也会变坏。问题甚至都不在于环境变坏。生命可以随时改道。事情可能随时会以一种你不喜欢的方式发生。


If everything in the world is going dead wrong for you, and you can still go through this life untouched, peacefully and joyfully within yourself, then you know life the way it is. Otherwise you are just a slave of the physical.

如果世界上的一切都出问题了,你仍然可平和而喜悦,不受影响地经历生活,然后你就知道生命本来的样子。不然的话,你只是物质的奴隶。


Stop “destroying” the ego

停止“消除”小我


Today, there is too much unnecessary talk going on in the world about destroying the ego. This has been picked up from the scriptures. Whenever your personality turns ugly, you call it ego. This is just one more way of passing the buck. When your personality turns ugly, you must just see it as you. If you see, “I am ugly,” you will want to do something about it. You would not want to be that way anymore.

现在,全世界有过多不必要的言论,关于消除小我。这种言论是从经文中拣来的。你的个性一变得讨厌,你就称之为小我。这只是又一种推卸责任的办法。你的个性变讨厌的时候,你必需要明白,那就是你。如果你看清楚,“我很讨厌”,你就会想要为此做点事情。你不会再说“那是因为小我”。


But we have evolved so many strategies just to avoid this possibility. At a certain moment, whether you are beautiful or ugly, it is you, isn’t it? Keep it that way. Don’t create things which are not there – your ego, your atman, or something else. The moment you create things like “What is beautiful is my atman, what is ugly is my ego,” no transformation will be possible. If you see: “Whatever nonsense I am, that which is beautiful and that which is ugly in me are both me,” then, what is ugly will naturally start changing – you will have to transform, you can’t help it.

但是我们找出这么多策略计谋,只是为了避免这种可能性。无论何时,不管是美是丑,那都是你,难道不是吗?就保持那个样子。不要创造一些并不存在的东西——小我,灵魂,或者别的东西。你一旦创造出像“美好的是我的灵魂,丑陋的是我的小我”这样的东西,转化就不可能发生。如果你明白:“不管我是什么样,我内在美好的,丑陋的,都是我。”那么,那丑陋的自然会开始变化——你会开始转化,那是自然而然的,你无法停止。

 

Today in the world, we need to bring about simple sense – life sense. Right now, people only have ego sense, they have no life sense. They are ego sensitive, not life sensitive. When you are like this, you only see yourself as life, no one else is life. You can trample upon anything and anyone. But if you are life sensitive, everything is life in your experience, so you naturally behave very sensibly with every other life around you. The ego will no longer be a problem if you become life sensitive.

在今天这个世界,我们需要有一种简单的感知——对生命的感知。现在,人们只有对小我的感知,没有对生命的感知。他们对小我敏感,对生命并不敏感。如果你是那样,你就只会把自己看成生命,其他人都不是生命。你可以践踏任何人任何事物。但如果你对生命敏感,在你的体验中万物都是生命,所以你自然会有觉知地去对待你身边的其他生命。如果你对生命敏感,小我就不再是个问题。




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