Is it possible today to create another great being such as Agastya Muni? Sadhguru explains, even for the Saptarishis, there was no special birth or star alignment – rather they built themselves up through their aspiration, determination, and unyielding focus. 今天有可能创造另一个伟大的存在吗,比如像 Agastya Muni(投山仙人)?萨古鲁解释说,即使对Saptarishis(七贤-7个著名的圣者)来说,也没有特别的出生时间或星系排列—相反,他们是通过自己的抱负、决心和不屈不挠的专注来提升自己的。 Q: Sadhguru, can we create another Agastya Muni today? 问:萨古鲁,我们今天能创造另外一个投山仙人吗? Sadhguru: One thing that we know about Agastya Muni is that the other six sages felt he was diminutive and ugly. So those of you who think you can be Agastya Muni – these are a few basic qualifications! Agastya was a Tamil man – short, stocky and dark. Those qualities are not a problem. The important aspect of the making of an Agastya or any of the Saptarishis is they spent their entire life that we know of in sadhana – preparation, preparation, preparation. It is said they did eighty-four years of sadhana. Eighty-four is significant in terms of the internal mechanics of the system and the cosmic process. They covered the entire range of what can be done with a human being. They touched all the eighty-four aspects, and they worked upon these and prepared themselves. 萨古鲁:我们知道关于投山仙人的一件事那就是,其他六个圣人觉得他身材矮小、长相丑陋。所以你们中那些认为自己可以成为Agastya Muni (投山仙人)—这是一些基本的条件!投山仙人是一个泰米尔人—矮胖,肤色黝黑。这些特质都不是问题。成为Agastya Muni (投山仙人)或Saptarishis(七贤圣人)中的任何一个圣人最重要的是,他们一生都在Sadhana(灵性练习)中度过,这就是准备、准备、准备。据说他们做了84年的Sadhana(灵性练习)。八十四在内在系统运作和宇宙进程方面是非常重要的。它们涵盖了人类可以做的所有事情。他们触及了所有的八十四个方面,他们努力工作并且把自己准备好。 How long was the actual teaching where Adiyogi propounded everything to the Saptarishis? The numbers are probably more metaphorical than factual. Maybe it took twelve months or twelve years or one hundred and forty-four years. We do not know. But everything that can be explored was explored only with these seven people – Adiyogi refused to do that with Parvati. Though he gave her an experiential possibility, he did not give her the science of it because he did not see the same level of preparation. Adiyogi(阿迪瑜吉-第一个瑜伽士)对Saptarishis(七贤圣人)所有的实际教学是多长时间?这些数字可能更多的是隐喻而非事实。可能花了12个月,12年,或者144年。我们不知道。但所有可以探索的东西都只有这七个人才能探索—阿迪瑜吉拒绝了Parvati(帕瓦蒂-湿婆的妻子)去探索。虽然他给了妻子体验的可能性,但他没有传授给她这种可能性的科学,因为他没有看到妻子达到和七贤圣人同样程度的准备。 He saw these seven as absolutely fantastic receptacles, so he shared everything with them. Well, he divided the knowing into seven parts and sixteen ways each. Then he set up the final test of surrendering those sixteen ways to him – which we are still symbolically doing in the form of Guru Pooja. Their preparation and their focus towards the ultimate was so immense that they were willing to just throw down everything that they had earned over so many years. Only because of that they became who they became. 阿迪瑜吉认为这7个人的根器非常棒,所以他和七贤们分享了所有的方法。他把知识分成了七个部分,每个部分有十六种方法。然后他设置了最后的测试,每个人将这十六种方法示现给他—我们仍然象征地以Guru Pooja(上师礼拜)的形式在做这件事。七贤圣人的准备以及他们对终极的关注是如此巨大,以至于他们愿意放弃这么多年来所获得的一切。正因为如此,他们成为了七贤圣人。
In other words, this entire legend is telling us that the Saptarishis did not drop from the sky. There was no special birth – nobody is talking about how the stars rose and thunderclap happened when they were born. Nothing. Just a normal birth. Nobody knows where they were born in the Indian subcontinent. Some women would have delivered them somewhere in some insignificant place. They did not drop from heaven; they built themselves up. That is what is significant about their life story and about yoga and sadhana: no matter who you are, how the hell you were born, who your parents were, what kind of karma you have – if you are willing, you can build yourself up. 换句话说,整个传说告诉我们,七贤圣人并没有从天上掉下来。没有什么特别的出生—没有人在谈论出生时候星系是如何升起的,以及它们出生时是如何打雷的。什么都没有。只是正常的出生。没有人知道他们出生在印度次大陆的什么地方。有些女人可能会把他们生在某个不起眼的地方。他们不是从天上掉下来的,而是自己努力来的。这就是他们的生活故事,瑜伽和灵性练习的意义所在:无论你是谁,你是如何出生的,你的父母是谁,你有什么样的业力—如果你愿意,你可以塑造自己。
Even the biggest trees in the forest have built themselves up, isn't it? Now we look up at a huge tree with great wonder, but just a few years ago it was probably only a sapling. Those who do not understand this think it just happened from somewhere, because they are generally absent. They are so lost in their own psychological games that they do not pay attention to anything. 即使是森林中最大的树也是慢慢生长来的,不是吗?现在我们仰望一棵巨大的树,非常惊奇,但就在几年前,它可能只是一棵小树。那些不理解这一点的人认为这只是在其他某处突然出现的,因为他们通常都很茫然。他们在自己的心理游戏中迷路了,什么都不关注。 I want you to just imagine in the last sixty years how much this tree in the forest would have had to go through to survive the rampaging wildlife, the dry seasons – fighting for nourishment and getting what it wants to grow up and stand tall. Because food does not get served on a plate for him. He has to grab the sunlight from the other trees, he has to grab the nutrients from the soil. For him, it is a phenomenal sadhana, isn't it? But he built himself up, and today we have to look up to him with open-mouthed wonder. 我想让你们想象一下,在过去的60年里,森林里的这棵树要经历多少磨难才能在狂暴的野生动物区域和干旱的季节里生存下来—为营养而战,获得它想要的生长和挺拔。因为食物不会装在盘子里送给他吃。他必须从其他树上抢夺阳光,他必须从土壤中获取营养。对他来说,这是一种非凡的灵性修习,不是吗?但他塑造了自己,今天我们不得不惊讶地仰望他。 Similarly, we have to look at Agastya and the other Saptarishis with open-mouthed wonder, because these human beings do not look human. They look too special, but they built themselves up. The aspiration, the determination, the unyielding focus without any support, how they worked and worked even as they were neglected – this preparation is the most important aspect about them. It did not matter to them if they had to come back and do eighty-four lifetimes of preparation; they were willing to do it. 同样地,我们不得不惊奇地看着投山仙人和其他七贤里的圣人,因为这些人看起来不同于常人。他们看起来太特别了,但是他们塑造了自己。抱负、决心、没有任何支持但坚定不移的专注,以及他们甚至是在被忽视的情况下工作的—这种准备是他们最重要的方面。就算让他们回来准备84辈子,对他们来说也会愿意做这件事。
Let us say Agastya Muni was from a local village here and he just vanished. He went to Himalayas to be with Adiyogi. What do you think the villagers were talking about Agastya? Do you think they were praising his parents saying, “Oh, your son is becoming a great sage”? No. They were making fun of his parents, saying “Your idiot boy, where is he?” Even if he came back after whatever number of years, do you think they would have been thrilled to see him? Excited that he had gone to Himalayas, met Adiyogi and returned? No, they would have laughed at him as he came back in a loin cloth looking like a wild creature. 我们假设Agastya Muni(投山仙人)来自这里的一个村庄,然后他就消失了。他去喜马拉雅山和Adiyogi(阿迪瑜吉)在一起。你认为村民们在谈论什么?你认为他们会称赞他的父母说,“哦,你的儿子正在成为一个伟大的圣人”吗?不。他们取笑他的父母,说:“你的傻儿子去哪了?”“即使过了几年他回来了,你认为他们见到他会很兴奋吗?”很高兴他去了喜马拉雅山,遇见了阿迪瑜吉,然后回来了?不,他们会嘲笑他,因为他缠着腰布回来了,看起来像个野兽。 Now, we may look at the man in terms of what he became with open-mouthed wonder, but in his time, there was no recognition or appreciation. Nobody clapped their hands for him. Everybody thought he was a nutcase who left his parents, the irresponsible boy who ran away. Through all that, never wavering – just being on, on, on – that is Agastya Muni. One thing is his direction was set, and another thing is no matter what happened, he chose to remain in grace, never wavering from what he was doing.So if you want to become an Agastya Muni… if you can emulate this, why not? 现在,我们可以用惊奇的眼光来看待这个人,但在他那个时代,没有人认可或欣赏他。没有人为他鼓掌加油。每个人都认为他是个疯子,离开了父母,这个不负责任的孩子跑掉了。在这一切进程中,永远不动摇—仅仅是继续,继续,继续—这就是投山仙人。他确定了一件事,另一件事不管发生了什么,他都选择保持优雅,从不动摇自己的决定。所以如果你想成为一个投山仙人…如果你能效仿这个,为什么不呢? Love&Grace 爱与恩典
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