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如果你用意志去做,就会有冲突,所以永远无法理解任何事情的深度和真相。-10

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我们对死亡的态度是,如果人不得不死,那就得死得有价值,所谓的重如泰山。但是克氏说一切期望自己通过某种形式而得以让自己的存在可以永恒的想法都必须终结。也就是需要彻底地死去,不留下任何痕迹。可见他说的是多么地彻底,可是如果是如此彻底地“断”,是否会进入完全的“灭”的境界呢?这个似乎也是很多人在怀疑和担忧的,当然没有曾经进入过这种境界,想也是没用的。但是可以理解的是,克氏在彻底的死亡之后,他一直强调的是一种非意识可以想象的新的东西存在。这应该就是爱,也就是慈悲地创造吧。

所以世俗的人通过不断地积累自己的技能或者知识通过某种可以留存的作品让自己的名声永恒,从而让自己的生存有价值和意义;而宗教人士通过寄希望于死后的新的世界可以让自己的灵魂或者自我永恒。两者都在为死亡做准备,看似都是比每天只知道吃喝玩乐的人高级一些。但是有多大的区别呢?以及能够对永恒的苦有多大的解脱的作用呢?

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SAANEN第六次公开演讲1977年7月21日-10

你知道恐惧是一种负担,一种可怕的负担,当你完全消除这种负担时,就会发生一些新的事情。但是我们害怕结束,在生命结束时的结局。我们说现在就结束它。你明白了吗?结束它;结束你的虚荣,因为没有结束就没有开始。我们被困在这种连续性中,永远没有结束。所以当有一个全部完全的整体结束时,就会有一个全新的开始,这是你无法想象的。这是一个完全不同的维度——我说它是无价的。但是,我们在一起玩游戏,试图找出这叫做死亡的非同寻常的事情的真相,结束一个人的依恋——一个人的恐惧,一个人的虚荣、结论、神经质——结束它。你能做到吗?你会这么做吗?你在做吗?不要一点一点地做:第一天结束依恋,第二天结束恐惧,第三天结束虚荣,第四天焦虑等等;而是现在就结束这一切。也就是说,结束意识的内容,也就是我们的意识。内容创造了意识。内容是恐惧、依恋、贪婪、嫉妒、我的国家、你的国家、我的上帝——内容。为了结束这一切,不是通过意志——通过意志,你永远不能做任何事情,从心理学的角度来说。如果你用意志去做,就会有冲突。通过冲突,无法理解任何事情的深度和真相。如果你和你的妻子,或者你的丈夫有冲突,你就不理解这段关系。只有在没有冲突的情况下,你们才能互相看,然后你们才能感觉到对方,信任对方——你懂吗?然后,关系中存有了一种完全不同的状态。

因此,为了弄清死亡的真相,必须结束一个人意识的内容。因此你永远不会问:“我是谁?”或者“我是什么?” 你是你的意识伴随着其内容。当意识及其内容结束时,就会有完全不同的东西,这是无法想象的。你知道,人类在他们的行为中寻求不朽,一个人写了一本书,书中有作者的不朽;一位伟大的画家画了一幅素描,一幅画,这幅画就成了那个人的不朽。所有这些都必须结束,这是任何艺术家都不愿意做的。

因此,作为人类,每个人都是整个人类的代表——我希望你们能感受到,理解这样一种说法的深度——你就是世界,世界就是你,当这种意识发生变化时,你们就带来了人类意识的变化。所以死亡就是我们所知道的这种意识的终结。好了,先生们。星期天见。

SAANEN第六次公开演讲1977年7月21日

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↓下面是本篇文章的英语原文

You know fear is a burden, a terrible burden, and when you remove that burden completely there is something new that takes place. Right? But we are afraid of ending, ending at the end of one's life. We are saying end it now. You have understood? End it; end your vanity, because without ending there is no beginning. Right? And we are caught in this continuity, never ending. So when there is total complete holistic ending there is something totally new beginning, of which you cannot possibly imagine. It is a totally different dimension - my saying it has no value. But as we are together playing the game of trying to find out what is the truth of this extraordinary thing called death, to end one's attachment - to one's fears, to one's vanities, conclusions, neuroticisms - to end it. Can you do it? Will you do it? Are you doing it? Not bit by bit - one day attachment, next day fear, third day vanity, fourth day anxiety and so on - to end the whole thing now. That is, to end the content of consciousness, which is our consciousness. The content makes consciousness. The content is fear, attachment, greed, envy, my country, your country, my god - content. To end all that, not through will - through will you can never do anything, in the psychological sense. Then if you do it by will there is conflict. Right? And through conflict there is no understanding of the depth and truth of anything. If you and your wife, or your husband are in conflict you don't understand the relationship. It is only when there is no conflict then you can look at each other, then you can feel each other, trust each other - you follow? Then a totally different state exists in relationship.

So to find out the truth of what death is, there must be the ending of this content of one's consciousness. Therefore you will never ask: 'Who am I?' Or 'What am I?' You are your consciousness with its content. And when there is an ending to that consciousness with its content there is something entirely different, which is not imagined. You know, human beings have sought immortality in their action, one writes a book and in that book there is the immortality of the writer; a great painter does a sketch, a painting, and that painting becomes the immortality of that human being. All that must end, and which no artist is willing to do.

So as human beings, and each human being is a representative of the whole of humanity - I wish you could feel that, understand the depth of such a statement - you are the world, and the world is you, and when there is change in that consciousness you bring about a change in the human consciousness. So death is the ending of this consciousness as we know it. Right sirs.

See you on Sunday.

SAANEN 6TH PUBLIC TALK 21ST JULY 1977

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