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2019年年初, Google香港邀请谢霆锋出席'Talks at Google'分享会, 作为香港GoogleTalk首位嘉宾, 谢霆锋讲述美食与电影, 科技与音乐, 流利英文, 张口就来, 温柔有磁性!最近完整版视频出来了。 -完整视频- 谢霆锋 Talks At Google 上下滑动，查看英文演讲稿 N: Good morning,ladies and gentlemen. It's an honor to be here.Thank you for having me at Google Hong Kong. Yeah. I hope today through this session both parties can have a blast. And at any time if you feel that you want to voice out or ask questions, please feel free. OK. So when I first got the invitation to come to Google Hong Kong, I was thinking to myself, what the hell am I going to do at Google? Seriously. Because you guys are the people I go to when I look at my stuff. Seriously. It could be through the search engine. It could be through maps. I like to travel a lot. I could throw on a backpack and just wander off somewhere into the world and see the world. So I'm always navigating through maps. And lately, actually, speaking of which, I've been trying to pick up on more Japanese. So I do this a lot now every day. Hey Siri-san. N: [SPEAKING JAPANESE] SIRI: [SPEAKING JAPANESE] N: I've been trying to pick up on more Japanese. So lately I've made Google Translate my best friend. So I've even--I'm even forcing my smartphone to converse in Japanese with me, because we only have 24 hours a day. So yeah. But I must say, sometimes the translations are still a bit funky. But 80% of the time it does the job very well. So thank you for whoever out there that's making my life a lot easier. So yes. I do visit you guys very, very often every day. But I'm not here to talk about what we can Google. I think you guys out of everybody knows best what we can search on the internet. But maybe today we could touch on some other keywords where we cannot fully understand through the internet, maybe keywords like creativity. I think creativity for me, it's the biggest thing. Either it be through my music, or my food shows, or movies, or my business. Because I think without creativity we cannot really ensure our place in the market. And eventually you will be left behind in the world. Creativity comes in many different forms and styles, I guess. It doesn't have to be through movies or that kind of artistry.It could be through tennis. It could be through agriculture, architecture, woodworking,lecturing, whatever it may be. It could be through programming or engineering. I think if Google was not as creative when they were doing the algorithms back then, it would not be what it is today. So a lot of people would say, yeah, I'm not the creative type. No. We all are. We just have to find that one edge. We have to find how we can synergize and capitalize on that on our own strengths. But it is getting harder and harder to be creative, I think, in this world, because everyday we are flooded by so much content in our phones. All the blogs that we look at, all the comments, all the likes, all the streaming, all the films. Everything. But unknowingly, unknowingly we are so almost too inspired to a point where we are losing ourselves, because we are taking in everybody else's ideas-- their thoughts, their voices. Therefore, if we are not creative enough, we tend to what we call-- we would ride on other people's ideas. Let's twist. Let's tweak. Let's-- in [INAUDIBLE] we would say [SPEAKING CHINESE].. But when we get into a habit of that, we forget about being original, being really creative, starting our own ideas. And to me that is very, very dangerous, because if what you put out is no different than the person next to you, if what you contribute to the company is just the same as everybody else in the room, let me tell you something. Next year you won't be here. The company doesn't need you. Eventually the market doesn't need you. And the world-- they don't need you. So constantly ask yourself how you can contribute more than the person next to you. I've been in my industry for more than 22 years now. And I tell you, I ask myself that question every damn day. Every day. Through music, through film, through my shows, through my business. How do I be more creative? That is very, very hard. And maybe even in some fields, it's getting harder and harder. Like in music, I would say that it is harder for me now to compose a very good piece of music than it was 15, 20 years ago, because the time signatures or the combinations of the notes are simply being taken up. It is harder to write something original than now and have it not sound like that it has been written by someone, sometime, like some song back then. Because it's been done. But in our world, that's what is happening is because all the ideas are being voiced up. And we are seeing it. So if we don't voice out loud enough, clear enough, soon enough, we are actually behind. So I urge you-- the first key word that I would want to touch on is actually creativity. Does anybody have anything to say? Any other things that you want to talk about? Another word I would say is-- a keyword for me is experience, especially-- well, experience in terms of the verb experience, not the noun experience, especially for you lot where your work requires you to sit behind a desk and a computer the whole day, maybe the whole year. But I would say that it is very important to get out there to the world and really experience it. Because I think the phone still only brings you halfway. And you must walk the other half. You know, nowadays when I'm chatting with a lot of the younger generation kids, what really happens a lot is that maybe the topic would be along the line of, man, I was in-- I was-- I was in Finland last weekend. The Aurora lights, they were beautiful. And then the kid would say something like, yeah. I know. I know. I saw it on YouTube. Or yeah, yeah. That was really cool. I saw it on Facebook. Yeah. OK. Sure. I'm sure it's an opening. It's an idea. It's a glimpse of what it really is. But if that's how you see things, you don't know (WHISPERED). Again, it's a great entrance to the world. But it's halfway. Please, when the opportunity allows, get off your butt and walk the other half, which may be even more important. OK. Experience the world. OK. The phone is awesome. The net is awesome. But that is halfway, halfway. Is it too early for you guys, because you guys look kind of stale. James, maybe we could start with a more Q&A. If anybody wants, please jump in. AUDIENCE: One of the things that is on our minds is also giving back about creativity, it's about experience. A lot of that is because we're sort of going through life through a screen, and we're not interacting much. Here at Google we spent a lot of time thinking about what we're doing for Hong Kong, how we're supporting non-profits, how we're providing services for schools-- training kids that code, for example. What advice do you have for us, and also for the broader millennial crowd who is interested in doing something for Hong Kong? How to get started. How to think about that. And what approach to take. Thank you. N: Thank you. I think keep doing what you're doing. Really. But we cannot lose the-- what we're trying to do is share, I think, in this era. And of course, sharing comes in different forms also.And that's what Chef Nic, the brand, is trying to do is because I think even now, when you see families going off to go out to dinners, they're eating through looking through their--looking through their phones the whole time. Actually, that's losing the true essence of why we are eating together. And that's what we're trying to promote through the 'Chef Nic' show is [SPEAKING CHINESE]. What is [SPEAKING CHINESE] is to actually enjoy a meal together. And that's why-- that's what cooking has also taught me. is let me tell you. I was in really, really bad terms with my parents for the longest time. I was in boarding school ever since I was 12. And then at the age of 14, I was sent to Tokyo to start training in music. By 16, I started working. And I never really got a chance to have a relationship with my parents. And we've been on bad terms for the longest time, until, until I started cooking. Because when you cook, it's the food-- you don't eat it alone. You want to share it. You want to get some feedbacks. And it gave me a medium to know how to talk to my parents and say, [SPEAKING CHINESE].. Or Mom, and [SPEAKING CHINESE]. Whatever you cooked back then was really cool. And you want to teach me? It became-- now it's a habit, you know. Does the food matter? Of course it does.But what really matters is how you find your way to share. And I think keep doing what you're doing. But if you can think of the third party, then I think that the whole picture is much bigger. H: Cool. Why don't you take a seat. N: OK. H: We'll chat a little bit and get comfortable. It was very inspiring talk hearing talk about creativity and the journey where you just mentioned how cooking brought you and your family closer together. N: Right. H: So a little bit on 'Chef Nic.' It's now in its fifth season. We're seeing a lot of traction both online and offline. But I want to kind of turn back the clock back to 2014. What besides what you just mentioned about the parents thing-- but what was the thing that made you transition from the singer, the actor [INAUDIBLE] to Chef Nic? And what was that transition like? N: I didn't think I-- I wasn't looking for a transition, really. I thought I could do everything together. Right? I'm still doing music. I'm still doing films. It's weird, because people look at this like I'm moving from woodworking to pharmacy. It's not that far. I think what I'm doing with food, with movies, and also music, and the business together, I think, as a whole it has perfect synergy. I don't think that they're really unrelated. And that's how I do things. If I cannot pull resources from somewhere, somehow to contribute into a new thing I do, then I really would reconsider to either do it or not. Because to start fresh at a later age-- later age-- is maybe at a disadvantage. But first of all, I found food to be a true passion. And then I also saw that it would be the next biggest thing after communication and tech. So I thought how I could kind of rejuvenate the whole entertainment business of mine and make it a long lasting one, I guess. H: Was this interest in food something that was always there? N: It was always there. But I thought to make it a bit more serious. And at the time I think mainland China was actually-- it was really lacking a decent food or lifestyle show. H: OK. N: Yeah. So we started 2014. Right? H: Yeah. N: And we just finished the fifth season this year. H: Yeah.I've been watching. N: Thank you. H: So on the food topic, I'm sure you hear this a lot. And even people who know me doing this have asked this as well is that, you've never worked in the kitchen. Can you really cook? Like, obviously I heard stories. And I know that you put a lot of hard work and dedication and courage into being who you are today and achieving what you've done. But not everybody has seen that. So what goes through your mind when you hear criticism like this? And how do you deal with? N: It's logically acceptable. Because first of all, we may think that because someone has not been doing something for really long, they can't be good at it. Right? That's the logic.It's OK. It's OK.But that's almost like saying-- let put it this way. That's almost like saying we as a human race, we've been using the landline telephone for centuries. Why don't we stick with it? That must be the best way. So dump all your iPhones. Dump all your mobiles right now. Let's go back to the landline, because we've been doing that for the longest time. Right? That's like saying, we as a human race, we've been using the-- we've been driving gasoline automobiles for centuries. So has Elon Musk gone crazy to start Tesla? Why are there so many electronic cars out there now? Because that must be the best way, because we've been doing it for the longest time. I think we are that narrow-minded. That really frightens me, because we are in a new era. There are perks and different texts now out there that allows us to pick up on information much more rapidly than it has been in the traditional kitchen, I would say. Oh, I'm sorry. But the way I've heard is maybe the first apprentice cook would be peeling vegetables for maybe a year or two. But I have my ways, or I have saved up enough money to be peeling something much more in the first year. H: Yeah. I mean, like we hear all these stories about like, chefs training in Japan and like they're washing rice for like seven years before they can make sushi. N: Right. So is that the best and only way? I don't think we can be that narrow-minded in thinking like that. Of course, there has been a lot of hard work and time and effort put into it. But I don't have to get into those. H: Yeah. But how do you stay focused on doing what you need to do? Do you have like a system? Do you have a way to do things? Because obviously it's a lot of work. N: It's a lot of work. H: There's a lot of learning involved. Like, how do you stay organized? How do you stay focused? N: That's one thing I learned in the kitchen is time management. Because when you're trying to serve two dishes, it's easy. For two, it's easy. For four, it's OK. For eight, yeah, it's not bad. But when you try and do eight dishes for a table of 10, and they all have to be hot when you serve like, in Chinese food. It's not that easy. And when you do one of my Michelin galas, when you're serving for 700, they still have to be hot. And you've got eight minutes of serving time for 700 fine dining.It's very hard. But then you learn. Gradually, eventually you learn how to pace ourselves. And then your organization.Like what I just demonstrated on my phone. I try to squeeze in all these little seconds and milliseconds in my life to gain just that much more. But I guess when there's a will, there's a way. I don't know your time schedules. But you figure that out for yourself. But there are these little gaps in life where you can just squeeze in a bit more here and there, knowledge. And then eventually that adds up. That adds up. Yeah. H: Yeah. I think it's amazing how you're able to balance so many things and do everything so well. N: And I'm a very-- naturally I'm a very [SPEAKING CHINESE] person. I'm a very-- I'm very curious about everything. You know? I mean, I look up stuff just to know, just to ask why, where, when, how. And when I start something, I don't like to stop until I actually get somewhere. That's just a personality. H: Yeah, I've heard many stories as well about-- N: Really? H: --deep you go and how kind of focused you are, and how deep down you drill into everything that you try to learn. And I think that's something that's very admirable. N: Oh. I can be a pain in the ass in that aspect. Yeah. H: But like I said, you're a man of many hats.You're developing a chef career on the side. You have music. You have acting. All that together. Kind of bringing the conversation back to where it started with music, your last Cantonese album was in 2005. N: Really? H: One step closer. N: Right. H: And then your last Mandarin album was 10 years ago. It was 2009. N: Oh. H: So I know you haven't stopped doing music. So you've done movie songs, you did songs for your show. And over the past 12 months, personally, I've seen you kind of do a little bit more. Started with 2018 [INAUDIBLE] in that performance. You launched three singles this year. You were a guest judge on 'The Voice.' And now just recently you had the RTHK performance. So is this foreshadowing something? Are we going to see more music coming from you in 2019? N: I didn't really plan this. I think I'm just going with the flow, really. Sometimes. But I think at different times with different inspirations, or sometimes I feel that there are different advantages for different fields. You know how sometimes the stock market, it's doing better than the real estate. Sometimes music is doing better than film. And that's how I can kind of weasel around and do my thing, because there's never one trend that's always at the top. That's actually true. If you really look at the market, something is always doing a bit better. And if the trend is like that, and you kind of catch the wave, man, you're on top. Because when we started the 'Chef Nic' show, we are definitely the biggest food show in China. When we started in 2014, by the third season we were doing over 300 million RMB.And now we're in the fifth season. But if you catch the wave, that's a different thing. That's a different thing. So I think we're doing very stable in 'Chef Nic.' So I think now I have the time to kind of-- H: Do more music. N: --do more music. H: So does that mean we'll see the album-- an album this year? N: I don't know if I'm working on a full album. But I don't really think if that really matters anymore in the new market. Right? But yeah. H: But what does matter? N: I'm hoping for-- I'm actually working on a concert. But there's-- H: That's what we were going to ask. N: In Hong Kong everybody is starting a concert as if they have nothing else to do. [LAUGHTER] H: And still hard to buy tickets. So. N: We need a bigger stadium. That's what we need. Yeah. H: We need a bigger-- N: A new, bigger stadium. H: --platform. We need more creativity. N: Maybe that's why I can book my stadium schedule, because I've been dissing it the whole time. H: Well, time to get creative and think about something different. Right? Back on the topic of [SPEAKING CHINESE],, 'The Voice.' A lot of people have said that this season was a lot better than previous seasons. I think so. Personally, I think you being on it injected kind of a different dynamic. It was-- it was interesting to see how seriously you took it. Again, stories. I heard a story that maybe I want you to share with everybody about the drumming performance. So I actually heard from Derek how hard you prepared for it and how you kept on-- N: Well, preparation for the performance is a given. But actually, when you talk about 'The Voice,' what I would actually want to share is-- I don't know how many people has watched the show. But you know how I got totally bashed when I started hammering onto the button at first in the first two episodes, because there are actually these two new perks. They changed the way the game played this year. That to start off with, all the contestants-- there are about 150 contestants put into one room. And they are watching a live feed of whatever is happening on stage-- the performance, along with the judges' comments and how they would choose their team. That's one thing. The second thing is, each judge would have a six-person quota to choose into assembling their team. And if you do choose a seventh person, that person would have to battle out any of their chosen-- the person from the original team. So thinking like that, there are a few things I tried doing is the first episode, if people who have seen the show would see me just hearing the first two sentences, and then I would be smashing onto the button. And then the reporters, the viewers, who would say, he doesn't know Jack about music! Go back to cooking! How could you choose someone from just listening for the first two words? What I found out was, I am very aware that for the past 10 years, like you said-- my last album was maybe 10 years ago-- I'm very aware that a lot of the younger kids, they don't see me as a singer. They don't see me as a musician. If I were to fight for these contestants over-- with the other judges, I would have a very big disadvantage. The only way I could plant some ideas into the 150 contestants that are watching the live feed is by hammering onto that button and slowly turning around, because therefore, I have the floor. I have the power of speech. Because they didn't choose the person. I did. So actually I'm trying to voice out and tell not the person on the stage, but the 150 in the room, what I have done or what my views on music is so that they would feel more comfortable joining my team. But then, man, I got totally bashed by the media, by everybody else. Yeah, stop this guy, or he's crazy, or whatever. And that's one thing I found that was really helping me out strategically. The second thing is people are also bashing me for-- I would choose a lot of contestants because I was solely pressing onto the button. But what I was also doing is, I found out if you had to choose a seventh member, and if your whole team was equally matched, six of them were equally as good, it's very hard for a newcomer to choose who they would like to battle. But if you have two that are-- it's cruel to say this-- but, if you have two that is obviously a bit weaker, it's easier for the newcomer to choose from. So you could always keep on upgrading your team, if that makes sense to anybody. But strategically, I think I've done something new in the show. Yeah. H: So it seems like you took a very strategic approach on how you picked your team and how you-- N: Yes. But at the end, I hope all these elements would bring a better show. H: Yeah. Right. So how long was the filming of the entire process? N: The shooting days was 29 days. But the whole process with all the rehearsal and all the training was maybe three months. H: So over that span, like being on 'The Voice' and this is a relatively new experience for you. N: Yeah. H: What do you think was the biggest thing that you learned or gained from that? N: For me, it was a great platform to get back into music, because it has the most reach right now in terms of variety shows in China. So. H: Are you going back next season? N: I don't know. I don't know. H: OK. But some stuff like that, like kind of music shows and stuff are still something you'd like to-- N: Definitely. H: --be more involved in? N: Definitely. H: OK. As I talked about at the beginning of the talk, you're the first guest we're having here at Talks at Google in Hong Kong. So I'd be remiss not to bring the conversation back to tech a little bit. N: All right. H: I heard that you're a very heavy YouTube user. So let's start from there. [LAUGHTER] N: No, no. H: You told me in the room. N: Sure. H: So what's your view on kind of technology and how we interact with platforms like YouTube and other social media? And how do you think that plays into today's world, and even your own life and career? N: Well, definitely for me it's a very important part of my life now. I think for any of us, really. We've just got gotten into the habit of learning a lot. Even like, my kids, they're always on YouTube. Seriously. I think the tech nowadays, it has really enhanced the speed of our learning curve. We are picking up the goods and bads through the internet. Like, even through food-- like how tech has really changed food immensely through the past 10 years now. The delivery system has allowed us to choose fresh goods from the internet, stuff like that. H: You're not a very heavy user on social media. N: Right. I'm not a social media guy. But if there's a destination I'm looking for, then I would definitely go on it. H: Do you feel that social media nowadays has kind of become something that more or less kind of consumes people and has become more of an addiction for some people-- N: Well, definitely. H: --takes away from the benefits of technology? N: But then I think it's a balance between for everything that we do. If we go to extreme, it's always kind of harmful. So we just have to balance it out. H: Is that why you're not on it? Or you just don't like it? N: I'm just not in the habit of doing the-- that maybe it's just not me. Right? H: But it's-- I think it's also a platform for you to kind share your views sure and share what you've done and something like that.So maybe something to consider. N: Of course. Of course. H: I'm sure if you opened up a YouTube channel and shared your cooking tips, everyone here would be love to subscribe. N: But then that's another thing right now that's really-- there's a bit of a language barrier. I mean, I have a lot of clips, but they're in Mandarin. H: Yeah. N: So if I do put it on YouTube, then I would have to kind of redo the exact same thing, but one maybe in English or in Cantonese. That really pisses me off. Right? I have to do three of the same thing. I would have to kill three fish to do a steam fish. H: Yeah. And if you only kill one fish, people will be commenting again and saying-- N: Right? H: --there's already a cut there. Yeah. [LAUGHTER]OK, I've been meaning to ask you about a show that you did called 'Celebrity Chef East Versus West.' So you faced off against star chef David Rocco. And it was a five episodes mini-series. And spoiler alert-- you won. Why did you choose to go film an English show? What was that experience like? N: Well, back to the part where a lot of people has been doubting me for the cooking part. So all you could do really is just to go the extent to prove yourselves. I think that in-- I've been doing that in every field, really. That's why I put myself through competitions. Especially when you do a foreign show like from Fox. Then it's not a 'Chef Nic' show. That if I can't prove myself through that kind of platform,then the haters will be haters. But at least I've gone the extent. I might even be going back this year to be judging or even competing. I'm OK with competing. But, yeah. I think you just have to find yourself to-- find ways to prove yourself. I have done many crazy stuff just to prove myself. But sometimes that's the extent you would have to do. I've jumped off buildings. I've jumped off convention center in Hong Kong to do my movies. H: 'Police Story.' N: Right. When people also thought that I-- because I'm the son of two celebrities-- maybe I don't take my job seriously. And that's-- that's why I've been putting myself through all this hardship and this pain and buildings after buildings, because if that's not serious enough for you, then what is? It may be silly to some people. But then you go try it. Right? H: I mean, I'm sure in the room not everybody is familiar with how you started and everything. But definitely as someone who grew up in that generation, I was able to witness all the negative-- N: Yeah, yeah. H: All right.Same generation. But I was-- yeah. N: For people who doesn't know, the first four years of my career was 99% booing. I would not get any applause anywhere. The minute I stepped onstage it was all boos and foul language and profanities. Four years. H: And it wasn't because of what you did. It was because of your background and who you were. N: Sure. Sure. And it was really, really tough for four years. Every time I walked off stage I would see my managers and my team. They would be just-- they would be all holding their fist and just crying. And I would be the only one that could walk back to the changing room and cool myself down. But I would have to endure that for every day for four years. H: And you kept going. N: Because back then we had so much promotion to do, all the performances. Back then it was work after work. And because there was no internet yet. So everything was live. Every day was live. Every time before I walked on stage, I would almost get paranoid about being booed. Because it got to an extent where I could not hear one word of the song I was singing. It was getting that nasty. Then somewhere in year 2000, it turned around. H: What was the turning point? N: I don't know, man. H: You don't know. N: Maybe, maybe there was some new kid to pick on. Or maybe they just got tired of all the hating. H: Or maybe they saw-- N: Or maybe there was enough buildings jumped.But what I mean is-- H: You didn't jump the convention in 2000. N: No, I didn't.I jumped it in a 2003 or somewhere like that with Mr. Jackie Chan. But yeah. When there is that need, you just have to find your way to excel. Maybe there are some crazy things that we've got to do. H: Thank you for that. Any live questions? AUDIENCE: So during the first few years when things were really tough, did you ever doubt yourself and think that you just weren't good enough? And if you did, what kept you going? N: I did. But maybe for a very short time. I never doubted myself in terms of music. I never doubted myself in terms of all the hard work I was putting in. I believe in-- I think I'm a logical person. And I think anybody can accomplish anything if you work hard enough. Really, I don't think there was a time where I think I could have given up. I would just-- I'm the person that does not give up. Naturally, I just have that kind of personality. And the second thing is, I can't give up, because I had to make a living. A lot of people would imagine that because I came from a family of two actors and actresses-- an actress-- that I don't take my job seriously. But I've been self-sustained ever since my debut. At the age of 20 I'd been paying my sister's education. So that's behind the scenes stories. But I could not afford to give up my job back then. So I took everything more seriously than anybody would have ever thought. H: I have a question online. Do you think though you've been in, like I said, over 50 films. N: I didn't know that. H: Yeah. I looked that up. What's your outlook on the genre of [SPEAKING CHINESE]?? Do you think there's a future? What do you think the future looks like? N: Back to the creativity thing. I think we are--Hong Kong right now is-- we are really lacking this part.I think we have been geniuses in the stock market. We are excellent in the real estate market. But maybe that's the last generation, the past generations. To get by in this generation we've got to be really creative in our own fields. Like in movies. If you're talking about the movie industry. I think we've all had our fair shares of the Marvel DC franchises where we've all seen our Supermans, our Batmans, our Ironmans, our Hulks, our Flashes, our Wonder Womans, our-- I can go on and on. And we have all seen them. The thing is, don't we have 5,000 years of history and culture? But yet we are still shooting the monkey king. Right? Right? So I urge any of you guys out there, if you guys ever fantasize about our own superheroes, please jot down something. Write a paragraph or two. Send them to me or to whoever that you think can make something happen. Because we have to. If we don't, we're going to be really, really behind really, really far. H: Send in your movie idea to me. I'll pass them along. Yeah.The next live question. AUDIENCE: The question I want to ask is, can you share with us one of the failure story, or the moment you doubt yourself-- is a good decision to kick off this 'Chef Nic' show?And then if that is yes, how you overcome? How you self-motivate yourself and then bring back your passion. Thank you. N: Thank you. Failures. Wow. Many failures, really. But I think in business I would say one of the more obvious ones were I invested in a company that did a post-production at the age of 22, 23. That was 2003. I started a post company-- post-production company. And we would do computer graphics. We would do color grading. We would do editing. Dubbing for a lot of commercials and films and stuff like that. Right? So when you're in that kind of a hardware tech company, you buy a lot of stuff. You buy a lot of-- we call [INAUDIBLE],, editors, and mics, and this and that. But back then we were at the end of the analog trend. And all of a sudden things changed. They don't use tapes anymore. They went from analog to digital. But all my hardware, they were a lot of money. So all those all of a sudden went into the can. And that's-- to the well where I was just saying, if you can catch the trend, that's a different story. I didn't back then. And I lost I lost a lot of money back then. I had to mortgage my house and all that. But that was on me. You know, everything just changed. But do I-- at that time it was hard. But I still believed in the network that I had built, all the connections, and the work we were doing. And then at the end we were OK. But there were a few years that was really, really tough. But as long as-- you have to stick with it. I mean, a lot of stuff I do, it doesn't reflect right away. Most of the stuff doesn't reflect right away. The 'Chef Nic' show didn't reflect right away. But eventually, eventually. Like how everybody would doubt me through my-- in my culinary journey. But then last month, or two months just now, I think maybe a lot of people had also had the 'Chef Nic' McDonald burger. H: It was really good. N: Thank you. Thank you. At that price I think we did a great job. And you know, Ashley, right after this meeting I'm going into inventing-- into the Central Kitchen to invent the 2019 one again. And we sold within five weeks--just only in Hong Kong-- we sold over 2 million burgers.And there is only, let me remind you, only 6 point somewhat million population in Hong Kong. H: I ate like, five. So. N: Thank you. I thank you. But then, yes. It took five years to kind of prove yourself. Just you really have to stick with it. H: On the-- just a quick question also online on the McDonald's collaboration. Throughout the whole process, how many burgers did you have to eat? N: Man, I ate-- I ate a lot of burgers. And there are-- I ate a lot of burgers. We also tested a lot of the fries, a lot of the ice cream, a lot of drinks. And yeah. There were a lot of other crazy stuff that we tested. H: What's that creative process working to create a new menu item? Or to do something that's never been done before? Like the pork chop. N: Right. That one's so good. Yes! H: So good. N: That's part of being creative. I think that's something that I really enjoy is creating menus or writing songs and making something my own. And when they gave me the homework to start up something that has [SPEAKING CHINESE],, Hong Kong [SPEAKING CHINESE].. It actually-- I didn't know how to translate that, that taste-- H: Taste of Hong Kong. Right. N: I was thinking how I could relate the taste of my childhood to a McDonald's burger. And there are other ideas that I'm still working on right now, maybe later in the kitchen today. Stuff like you know how Hong Kong people love their [SPEAKING CHINESE]? Right? I would always think that it would probably work with a [SPEAKING CHINESE]. Right? Because that's almost the same thing. But maybe a [SPEAKING CHINESE]. Right. Exactly. But then there are ups and downs we have to overcome. Like if we do work on a curry dish, then the kids would be left out. Right? So it's a long journey. But I really love it. These are some of the creative juices that I have to get out. H: I can't wait to see what you have in store. N: Thank you. Thank you. H: Any other questions? AUDIENCE: Thank you for coming. N: Thank you. AUDIENCE: And thank you for being so honest with everything you say. I can just feel it that you're not scripted. So, thanks, James. It seems like you have a lot of wisdom invested in a company back when you were 22, even though it kind of went through rough times. So through all these times, do you look up to somebody? Is somebody your mentor that has always been since day one? Or that has evolved depending on which part of the industry that you're in? N: Good question, actually. I don't have that person. I've always thought of my mentor as logic. I've really not gone to anybody about much of this kind of stuff. Maybe I should. Really. But I just don't have that person in life. 众所周知, 谢霆锋集演员、歌手、企业家、厨师多重身份于一身。很多人可能会由于身份众多而有些顾此失彼, 但谢霆锋处理的很好, 无论哪个方面, 他都做得异常优秀。将近一小时的演讲, 他真诚而认真的分享了自己丰富多彩的人生经历和一路走来的心得体会。 一口流利英文，还小秀日语！被质疑'是不是真会做菜'，谢Boss娓娓道来，以实例论证成就并非全由时间决定，还呼吁中国创造属于自己的超级英雄大片！温柔有磁性口音好好听！ 谢boss来提到自己用谷歌翻译来学习日语的细节，还说谷歌翻译有时候翻出来的结果有点奇怪，但是80%还是好的。 在一个小时的演讲中，谢霆锋全程以流利英文对答，透露自己曾经为了向大家证明自己做过很多疯狂的事情，比如说自己才会向着多领域发展，不管在哪个领域都想尽全力证明自己，为此也付出了很多的努力，因为有锲而不舍的精神，没有难题会令他却步。  搞笑开场白，霆锋“吐槽”谷歌 演讲开场，霆锋简要地说了一下谷歌与自己的生活息息相关，上网会用到谷歌搜索引擎，旅游会用到谷歌地图，学日语会用到谷歌翻译。重点来了，他还“吐槽”了谷歌翻译，引得全场发笑。 I've been trying to pick up on more Japanese, so lately I've made 'Google Translate' my best friend. 我最近一直试着去学更多日语，所以“谷歌翻译”就成了我最好的朋友。 But I must say sometimes the translations are still a bit funky. But 80% of the time, it does the job very well. So thank you for, you know, whoever out there that is making my life a lot easier. 不过，我必须要说，谷歌翻译有时候翻出来的东西很奇怪。但是，80%的时间里它还是非常出色的。所以，谢谢谷歌的这些产品，这让我的生活变得更加容易了。 接下来，演讲正式步入正题。 谈到“创意”和“经历”这两个关键词 But maybe today we can touch on some other key words where we cannot fully understand through the Internet, maybe key words like 'creativity'. 今天，我想我们可以讨论一些光靠互联网无法深入了解的关键词，比如说“创意”。 I think creativity for me is the biggest thing, either it be through my music, or my food shows, or movies, or my business. Because I think, without creativity, we cannot really ensure our place in the market. And eventually, you will be left behind in the world. 对我来说，创意是最重要的东西。无论是我的音乐，我的美食节目，我的电影，或是我的生意，都需要创意。因为，在我看来，如果没有创意，我们就不能确保市场上有自己的一席之地。最终，我们也会被世界所淘汰。 Creativity comes in many different forms and styles, I guess. It doesn't have to be through movies, or that kind of artistry. It could be through tennis. It could be through agriculture, architecture, wood working, lecturing, whatever it may be. 创意有许多不同的形式和风格。我猜。创意不必通过电影或者艺术表达出来。创意还可以通过网球、农业、建筑、木材加工和讲座等各种形式表现出来。 So a lot of people would say, you know, (yeah) I'm not the creative type. No, we all are. We just have to find that one edge. We have to find, you know, how we can synergize and capitalize on that on our own strengths. If we are not creative enough, we tend to what we call 'we would ride on other people's ideas. 你知道的，许多人会说“我属于那类没有创意的人”。不，我们都是没创意的人。我们只是不得不找到一个优势。我们必须找到如何协同发挥和充分利用自己的优势。如果我们不够有创意，我们就会越来越“依赖别人的想法”。 Another word I would say is, a key word for me is 'experience', especially well, the experience in terms of the verb experience, not the noun experience. 另外一个我想谈论的关键词是“经历”，特别是“经历”这个动词，而非名词。 But I would say that it is very important to get out there to the world and really experience it because I think the phone still only brings you halfway and you must walk the other half. 我想说，世界这么大，大家都要走出去看看，这很重要。因为你的手机只能带来一半的体验感，另外一半需要你踏出脚步去经历。 如何回报他人，给年轻人的建议 Sharing comes in different forms also. Let me tell you. I was in really, really bad terms with my parents for the longest time. And cooking gives me a medium to know how to talk to my parents. What really matters is how you find your way to share. 分享也有许多不同形式。告诉你们吧，有很长一段时间，我和父母的关系都不好。正是烹饪给了我一个和父母对话的媒介。看吧，重要的是你要找到自己分享的方式。 And I think keep doing what you're doing. But if you can think of the third party，then I think that the whole picture is much bigger. 继续坚持做你的事情。不过，如果你能把第三方因素考虑进去，那么我认为你的前景会更宽广。 集多个身份于一身，做到完美协调 I wasn't looking for a transition, really. I thought I could do everything together, right? I'm still doing music. I'm still doing films. I think what I'm doing with food, with movies and also music and the business together. I think, as a whole, it has perfect synergy. That's how I do things. 说真的，我并没有去寻求身份的转变。我认为我能把一切都做好，对吧？我依然在做音乐，依然在做电影。我认为我能把美食、电影、音乐和商业同时做好。我认为我能做到最完美的协调。这就是我做事情的方式。 如何保持专注，如何让生活井井有条 That's one thing I learned in the kicten. It is time management. And when you do one of my Michelin galas, when you're serving for 700, they still have to be hot and you got eight minutes of serving time for 700 fine dinning. It is very hard. But then you learn, you know, gradually and eventually you learn how to time or pace yourselves and then your organization. 那是我从厨房中学到的。就是时间管理。当我要做一些米其林的庆祝晚宴，同时为700人做菜，你只有8分钟的上桌时间，而且每道菜还必须保证是热的。这非常难。但你会通过渐渐学习，最终学会如何把控自己的时间和速度，做到有条不紊。 But I guess when there is a will there is a way. I don't know your time schedules, but you figure that out for yourself. But there are these little gaps in life where you can just squeeze in a bit more here and there, knowledge. And then eventually that adds up. That adds up. 我认为，有志者事竟成。我不知道你如何安排自己的时间，这点需要你自己先搞清楚。不过，我们在日常生活中常常会挤出一些时间。如果能用这些时间来积累知识，最终机会将汇聚成海。 And when I start something, I don't like to stop until I actually get somewhere. That's just a personality. 当我开始做一件事，在成功之前我就不会停下来。这就是我的性格。 音乐之路从未停止，正在筹备演唱会 I didn't really plan this. I think I'm just going with the flow, really. But I think, at different times with different inspirations , sometimes I feel that there are different advantages for different fields. 在音乐方面，我真的没有订什么计划。我认为，顺其自然就好。真的。不过，在我看来，在人生不同的阶段就会有不同的灵感。有时候，我也能感觉到不同的行业有不同的优势。 So I think now I have the time to kind of 'do more music'. I don't know if I'm working on a full album. But yeah, I'm actually working on a concert. 现在，我有点时间可以做更多的音乐了。我不知道是否还会出唱片。但是，耶，我目前的确有在筹备一场演唱会。 担任《中国好声音》导师受质疑，用实力回应
Preparation for a performance is given. You know how I got totally bashed when I started hammering onto the button at first in the first two episodes, because there are actually these two new perks. They changed the way the game played this year. But strategically, I think I've done something new in the show. 为表演做准备是必须的。你们都知道，在《中国好声音》前两集我因频繁按按钮而受到外界的严厉批评，其实这是导师的两个新特权。其实，这一季他们改了一些游戏规则。但从策略上来讲，我给节目带来了一些新元素。 科技日新月异，方便人们生活
We've just gotten into the habit of learning a lot. Even like my kids, they're always on YouTube. I think the tech nowadays, it has really enhanced the speed of our learning curve. We are picking up the goods and bads through the Internet. 我们已经养成了上网学习的习惯。我的孩子也是这样，他们真的整天都在看YouTube。我认为，如今的科技大大加快了我们学习的速度。互联网给我们带来了一些好处，同时也带来了一些坏处。 为证明自己，做过许多疯狂的事情
霆锋在《警察故事》“跳下”香港会展中心 I think you just have to find yourself to, find ways to prove yourself. I have done many crazy stuff just to prove myself. But sometimes that's the extent you would have to do. 我认为，你必须要找到你自己，找到证明自己的方式。我之前做过许多疯狂的事情，只是为了证明自己。但是，有时候你不得不去证明自己。 When people also thought that I, because I'm the son of two celebrities though, maybe I don't take my jobs seriously. And that's, that's why I've been putting myself through all this hardship and this pain and buildings after buildings. 有些人认为我是两位名人的儿子，所以想当然地认为我对待工作不认真。这就是为何我让自己去经历那些艰难困苦，（在电影中）跳了一座又一座楼。 刚出道就备受质疑，如何坚持下来
For people who doesn't know, the first four years of my career was 99% booing. I would not get any applause anywhere.The minute I stepped on stage it was all boos and foul language and profanities. And it was really really tough four years. When there is that need, you just have to find your way to excel. Maybe there are some crazy things that we've got to do. 有些人不知道，我刚出道的头四年全是嘘声。凡是我所到之处，根本没有掌声。我一登上舞台，就是全场嘘声和难听的话，甚至是谩骂。那四年对我来说真的很难很难。可能当有需要的时候，你必须要找到胜出的方式。 I never doubted myself in terms of music. I never doubted myself in terms of all the hard work I was putting in. I think I'm a logical person. And I think anybody can accomplish anything if you work hard enough. Really, I don't think there was a time where I think I could have given up. I'm the person that does not give up. 我在音乐方面从未质疑过自己，在我付出的所有辛勤努力上没有质疑过自己。我认为我是一个有逻辑的人。真的，我没有一刻曾想过要放弃。我是那种不会放弃的人。 柳暗花明，总结人生成功的“关键词”
Key words would be creativity. Key words would be tenacity. Key words would be synergy, actually. Resourcefulness. But different key words come at different times, really. 这几个关键词是创意、韧性、协调和丰富的资源。不过，不同的阶段会有不同的关键词，的确如此。 And to me, if I was to be greedy, I would say every word is a key word. 对我来说，如果更贪心的话，我想说这其中每个词都是关键词。
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