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@ Duff I confirm almost all of your findings (or lack of those as it was the case), except the influence of presence/absence of external sides on the voltage. (But the voltage can be influenced by many things, including small variations in temperature; please check it as a possible cause.) @达夫 我确认你的发现几乎所有（或缺乏这些情况），除上的电压的内外两侧存在/缺席的影响。（但电压可以影响很多事情，包括温度的微小变化，作为一个可能的原因，请检查它。） Saltwater might possibly come out at 12-15ml or more, depending on the hole height and other variables (sand texture, etc). But at that quantity of water the whole sand will be pretty much soaked. 盐水可能出来可能在1215毫升或多个，取决于孔的高度和其他变量（沙质感等）。但整个沙，水的数量将非常浸泡。 @all, There are many contradictions in the V6 description we have. Some of them do not simply reconcile. For instance, sand will obviously prevent the graphite rods from ?oscillating? at its ?free end?. Wet sand will do much worst? @所有， 有在V6说明我们的许多矛盾。其中有些不只是调和。例如，沙将明显防止石墨棒？振荡？在其自由端。湿沙会做很多的最差？ Much talk can be done on the above issues (/on existing contradictions) but I guess it would be pointless. I?d rather say in conclusion that it was definitely a hoax. And sorry pese, atlantex and others but I won?t buy the ?enemy story? anymore. 大谈可以完成对上述问题（/上存在的矛盾），但我想这将是毫无意义的。 我宁愿结论中说，它肯定是一个骗局。和抱歉pese atlantex和其他，但我赢了吗？买吗？敌人的故事吗？了。 Check for yourself: if not an incredible coincidence, while hundreds of us were waiting for the ?guru? to come back, it seems he was on a prolonged holiday and nothing more: http://74784./ Then, although I?m not sure it can be verified anymore, I?m telling you that the company?s site was updated during those days; obviously, the story about lack of any internet connection was another lie. I don?t know about the burglary and about the threats threat but I do suspect that the old forum was hacked by TT himself; professional opinions on site security and hacking issues were already posted into this forum and elsewhere. 然后，虽然我不知道它可以被验证了，我告诉你，在那些日子里，该公司的网站更新;？显然，缺乏有关的任何互联网连接的故事是另一个谎言。我不知道有关爆窃和有关威胁的威胁，但我做犯罪嫌疑人，被由测控自己砍死老论坛;网站的安全性和黑客问题上的专业意见已经张贴到这个论坛和其他地方。 Now, we may search for free energy but I don?t think is fair that our time and resources as well as we, as human beings, are TT?s playground. Nobody asked him to make promises in the first place and to later mess with them. At least, speaking for myself I do not consider of being his fool and to me, until proved the opposite by himself, he is an ordinary liar or maybe just an ill person. Every bit of information I have (there is more besides the above already posted) points toward this sad conclusion. Comments? 现在，我们可以搜索免费的能源，但我不牛逼认为是公平的，我们的时间和资源，以及我们作为人类，是TT·S游乐场。没有人问他承诺摆在首位，到后来与他们惹的。至少，对我来说，我不认为他的傻瓜和我，直到证明了自己的对面，他是一个普通的骗子，或者只是一个生病的人。每一个比特的信息，我（有更多的除上述已发布）点朝着这个悲伤的结论。评论吗？ Sorry for being maybe too direct, Tinu 对不起，也许过于直接， tinu duff January 17, 2008 达夫 2008年1月17日， Walter, 沃尔特 My approach is much like yours. First I inject water in the right side and then the left. No solution ran out the right side when injecting the left. I injected in the right side first attempting to create an equal distribution of water and injected the left side last so that the drain action could work when the proper amount was reached. 我的做法是很像你。首先我注入水在右侧，然后在左边。无解跑出注入左侧时，右侧。我注入在右侧第一个试图创造一个平等分配水和注入的左侧，最后使排水行动可以工作时，适当的数额达成了。 I agree that the water is being absorbed by the sand in the vertical tubes but at some point the water should run out. I am going slow in a effort to try to determine the precise amount of salt solution it takes to saturate the sand and then produce run off. 我同意水被吸收在垂直管砂，但在一些点水用完。我会在努力尝试缓慢，以确定沙饱和盐溶液的确切数额，然后产生逃跑。 On a previous attempt I saw water run out the right side after 6ml but I was injecting it much faster than this time and I got no results. 在以前的尝试，我看到了水用完之后6毫升右侧，但我被注射快得多超过这个时间，我没有结果。 I think you are refering to the voltage between the secondary cap and the frame. At the moment I am not so much interested in that voltage. I am trying to determine the influence of the pyramid orientation and height of the pickup device on the galvanic action. 我想你是指二次帽和框架之间的电压。此刻，我没有这么大的兴趣，在该电压。我试图确定金字塔的方向和高度的接收设备上电行动的影响。 In my case the ground does not seem to be influencing the galvanic action. I have run tested with and without the ground connected to the frame. Again I'm NOT looking at the voltage between the secondary cap and frame which is grounded. 地面，在我的情况似乎并不影响电行动。我已经运行测试并没有框架连接到地面。再次，我不是在寻找在中学帽和框架接地之间的电压。 My data is showing a slight trend toward higher voltages related to galvanic action with four sides on. Also, the last few nights I'm seeing higher voltages starting around 22:00. 我的数据显示轻微的趋势朝着更高的电压与四面上电行动。此外，过去的几个晚上，我看到了更高的电压约22:00开始。 I've condsidered connecting a data logger to it but I'd need to do some calabrations before beginning and it's cold in the garage right now... ，我condsidered数据记录仪连接，但开始之前，我需要做一些calabrations是在寒冷的车库，现在... Same as yours - My converter is not connected to frame or ground. 和你一样 - 我的转换器没有连接到框架或地面。 I have tested at 233mm & 177mm so far and tried alignment with true north, a few degrees west of true north and magnetic north. 我已经测试在233毫米及177毫米到目前为止，并试图对准正北，正北和磁北以西几度。 Did anyone get the pictures of Thomas & his wife posted at trawoeger-pyramide.info. 有没有人得到托马斯＆妻子张贴在trawoeger-pyramide.info的的图片。 When I saw that picture I thought that looks like Flaivo Thomas who Thomas claims was a fraud. 当我看到那张照片，我想看起来像Flaivo托马斯托马斯索赔是一个骗局。 I think Flaivo video shows the pyramid face aligned to magnetic north. The tic marks to the left are for alignment to true north. 我认为Flaivo视频显示金字塔脸对齐磁北。议会标志左对齐正北。 I don't know what city Thomas lives in but most of Austria's magnetic declination is approximately 2 to 3 degrees East depending on your location. So the tic marks to the left (west) would make sense. 我不知道托马斯城市生活，但最多的是奥地利的磁偏角东约2至3度，取决于您所在的位置。所以tic标记向左（西），是合理的。 Thanks Walter for the input. 感谢沃尔特输入。 fritz January 19, 2008 弗里茨 2008年1月19日， Theory of Operation... 操作理论... I've seen a circuit used as detector for scalar/torsion waves. You use a permanent magnet inside a faraday shield which is exposed to a coil with one open end, tuneable cap to select the proper frequency. The theory behind this setup is that the scalar/torsion waves alter the field of the permanent magnet which is causing a time variant magnetic flux in the coil - which stimulates the energy transfer between the open coil and the cap. 我看到标/扭转波探测器使用的电路。 您可以使用内部法拉第屏蔽线圈与一个开放式的结尾，选择适当的频率调谐帽暴露永久磁铁。 此设置背后的理论是标/扭转波改变永磁领域，这是造成时变 在线圈的磁 - 刺激开放的线圈和瓶盖之间的能量转移。 This is as far I am thinking about the closest match to what I?ve seen on the video to v4 converter. 这是我想我已经看到V4转换视频最接近。 An open point is how the AC is rectified - but this can be due to the materials used. 开放点是如何交流得到纠正 - 但是，这可能是由于所用的材料。 In such a case the pyramide construction would act as a directionallens which concentrates scalar/torsion waves. 在这种情况下，金字塔的建造将精矿标量/扭转波作为directionallens行事。 ________________________________________ Your Support Maintains this Service -- and Your Survival ... 您的支持维护服务 - 和你的生存... The Rex Research Civilization Kit 雷克斯研究文明套件 ... It's Your Best Bet & Investment in Sustainable Humanity on Earth ... 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